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#1 sendtoken82

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 07:47 PM

Hi All,

I dunnoe if this is the right place to post this question. I just wish to ask if there's any IPPT Defaulter here ? I wanna find out what will happen tp IPPT Defaulter and what am i expecting on the day I was "to appear in person ... to answer to a charge of "Neglecting To Perform a Lawful duty" ?


I did not book RT for failing 06 - 07 Windows, I did not book and did not attend 07 -08 Window.

Please advise.

#2 sendtoken82

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:16 PM

Sad ... so many views, but no answer ...

Guess I'm at the wrong place ...

Never guys, Sorry for the trouble to read this post.

Thanks anyway ...

HAppy Long Weekend !

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:22 PM

The worst is just kena fine $50 lor.

#4 sendtoken82

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:32 PM

Ohz ..

Thanks -ttttt-,

I really hope so its only the monetary punishement, I'm just worried about having "charges" that leaves records under my name.

THanks Again ...

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:35 PM

lol, what record you mean? no worry, for what i know, for reservist not that strict, as long you not DB you will be clean, i heard someone DB too but when they reservist etc, they never treat differently also, no worry, sleep well

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 09:51 PM

Dun worry.... 1st offender either get verbal warning or fine 50 dollars...but depends on rank.... U will not get civilian offence records that will be reveal to the world unless u go DB more den certain days.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 09:48 AM

1st time offender - A verbal warning

2nd time offender - Another verbal warning + $50

3rd time offender - It should be DB.

Yes, even civilian will also be sent to DB.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 10:43 AM

I have a straight friend who is an odd job worker. Every year he looked forward to IPPT and will try his best to score Gold or at least Silver points to get $400 or $200 respectively. He said as compared to earning few hundred bucks doing odd job which requires physical strength under hot sun, IPPT is an easy money for him and even joked about why MINDEF doesn't implement it once a month. :rolleyes:

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 11:19 AM

1st time offender - A verbal warning

2nd time offender - Another verbal warning + $50

3rd time offender - It should be DB.

Yes, even civilian will also be sent to DB.



In the eye of SAF, civilian are NSMEN when comes to breakin military regulation like ICT defaulter, IPPT/RT defaulter etc.... of cox will be thrown inside DB...somemore everyone still holdin their rank in SAF...only diff.....it has a (NS) next to ur rank...tats all

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 12:31 AM

1st time offender - A verbal warning

2nd time offender - Another verbal warning + $50

3rd time offender - It should be DB.

Yes, even civilian will also be sent to DB.


My unit got some did not go for ippt for few times, they havent go DB la. Think maximum $400 or $500 fine. So I think he did not went ippt for 3 or 4 times liao bah.

Never heard anyone went DB for failing to go IPPT yet!

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 09:58 PM

Thanks Guys ! ... i feeling much more relieve after reading all your replies.

Cheers,

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 01:48 PM

what will happen?

nothing much...

you only have to go down in your uniform, meet a DO (disciplinary officer), then explain why u did not go, sometimes can escape the $50 fine...
some good reasons are family or work related. it's juz a formality.

they'll most prob do a few defaulters at a time, please note that you HAVE to be in full uniform, with proper hair cut and color, one time the DO ask this punk with golden hair to go and get it "fix" before coming back. they you'll be escorted one by one to see the DO.

then later in front of your NSAS go book a new slot.

at the end of the day, try not too miss your IPPT.
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 03:25 PM

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at the end of the day, try not too miss your IPPT.


Thanks ! ...

I won't dare to test the system anymore ...

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 07:03 PM

Thanks ! ...

I won't dare to test the system anymore ...




Hey guys....what about RT defaulters??? Will it be the same as IPPT defaulters? Kenna fine $50 only???

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 10:04 PM

You should have a good reason to give when you report to the DO to face your charges. Do not, under any circumstances look like you couldn't care less. The mood of the DO can determine if you are let off with a verbal warning or a fine, or if this is not your first time, potentially DB. The number of defaulters are on the rise, and it's a matter of time before SAF decides to find a guinea pig to throw into DB to serve as a warning to everyone else... don't be that guinea pig...

So, just do it, and get it over and done with. No point getting into trouble over SAF matters.

Edited by Centrino, 24 August 2010 - 10:05 PM.


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Posted 24 August 2010 - 11:00 PM

Hello, I was the co's pa during my nsf days a few years ago, and i have seen many many NSmen got charged for repeatedly skipping and defaulting their ippt/rt. Some get warning, some get fined $50, depending on how good you spin your tale. For some who default repeatedly despite many warnings, they do get sent to db immediately, all you get is a phonecall home to tell your loved ones you are going to db, and will be out when and when.

It's quite sad to see them getting handcuffed and escorted to the van waiting to send them to db. I don't think anyone would want that to happen to them, do they?

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 06:41 PM

What happen if i cannot wear all my uniforms liao ?

DO i have to go to the army market there to purchase the full set of uniform?
Need some serious advise pls.

Thanks

what will happen?

nothing much...

you only have to go down in your uniform, meet a DO (disciplinary officer), then explain why u did not go, sometimes can escape the $50 fine...
some good reasons are family or work related. it's juz a formality.

they'll most prob do a few defaulters at a time, please note that you HAVE to be in full uniform, with proper hair cut and color, one time the DO ask this punk with golden hair to go and get it "fix" before coming back. they you'll be escorted one by one to see the DO.

then later in front of your NSAS go book a new slot.

at the end of the day, try not too miss your IPPT.



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Posted 28 February 2011 - 07:47 PM

What happen if i cannot wear all my uniforms liao ?

DO i have to go to the army market there to purchase the full set of uniform?
Need some serious advise pls.

Thanks

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 09:57 PM

1st time offender - A verbal warning

2nd time offender - Another verbal warning + $50

3rd time offender - It should be DB.

Yes, even civilian will also be sent to DB.


I don't think the above is right. At least that's not what happened to me. I'm a first time offender about 6 to 7 years ago. I was smack with a $150 fine even I explained that they must have send the mail to my previous address. In those days, my unit are not so well informed on change of address. There's no point arguing any further as there are no way to prove it and no sense talking to those stone heads. Just pay the fine and go.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 11:58 PM

I think only right for you to call 1800 3nsnsns to seek professional help from MINDEF :)

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 09:22 PM

Depends on your unit and DO. There was once a nasty DO, 80% of his cases go DB. Usually between 7 to 14 days. And do not think there is no record. Your DB record stays with you for life.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 09:25 PM

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Edited by str8chnguy, 24 September 2013 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2011 - 10:46 PM

I had once few years back... was given a verbal warning. The rest who are there was fined.


I think we are interested in the topic and did not realised that the original post was done in 2009. The person who started this thread never read it anymore. Lol. Of course, he must have paid his fine and passed his ippt by now.

To stock4fun, you really should start new thread since you are asking something completely unrelated, instead of digging this out from its grave.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:20 PM

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Edited by str8chnguy, 24 September 2013 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2011 - 01:35 AM

If you dun wan to kana defaulter for ur IPPT. Then try to down grade lor. :whistle:

Ur reservist units will have the chance to change to new No4. And they will charge u on a discount rate of $30 for 3 set ( No4 and Slack). :rolleyes:

if you wan to buy one set from emart, it will cost more than $30 per set.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 08:56 AM

Indeed this is an interesting thread after so long, there are still pple replying. lol...

Anyway, is also good to reply here for the benefit of others who wants to know just in case. lol...

Not too sure if the standard guildline for fine, verbal warning or DB is publish in ns.sg. Just go over and take a look. You guys will know. :) Do take note that the punishment is depending on your rank too which will also determine your officers is JDO/SDO. If you are lucky, your JDO/SDO may give you chance but the punishment will not be lesser then previous if you have been charged for the same offense. :)

As for the record issue. Perhaps some of you may or may not know this. Be it whether the outcome or punishment is a verbal warning, fine, or DB, all this will be documented down in your conduct sheet with the punishment. There is no way to charge a person with out putting all the charges into the conduct sheet.

So to prevent the above, just login to your ns.sg portal with your singpass, go do a booking and take your ippt test. If you failed, do not wish to suffer the RT, then volunteer for the IPT which is shorter than RT. Siong but after IPT, if you still failed, you will be excuse from RT the following year. In fact alot of NS men are taking up IPT. :)

Remember, ignorance is not longer a valid reason in MINDEF. Likewise if you claims that you moved, and did not received and letter, is also not a valid reason anymore unless you have records to show that you have change your address within 7 days of shifting, and ns.sg is showing the new address but yet you still did not receive any letter (which is highly unlikely).

Hope this clear the doubts. :)

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 10:20 PM

Thank ex-admin staff.

Your post do really help here as since this thread as mentioned had been posted in '09.

=)

@briax, im just using the reply post as my question was still related to the post stated here too. also im not sure i still do have saf credits available. Havent been in singapore for a couple of years and suddenly got all this issue coming up!! But thanks for bringing this up too.. cheers. =)

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 10:27 PM

Best is to tahan until 40 and they will never call you again.
Maybe older for officers and NCOs...

Anyone can confirm?
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 09:50 AM

hello guys,
1st timer offender here.

would like to ask. if i wear no.4. do i need to wear headdress also?
need advice

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 05:02 PM

Damn. Never been called up for reservist Or ippt since ord 10 years ago, today kanna letter charge for no ippt. Will I be fined $50 times 10????? Fffff

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 12:30 PM

they will send you for some summary trial to explain your reasons for defaulting , and if you default for the third time , you will be tagged as a 3 striker which you will be sent to DB if you defaulter all the RT/IPPT without good reasons

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 01:45 PM

i had operation before my birthday, got my appendix removed, so i have liked 2mths of mc, and i forget totally bout my ippt... what should i do...???
cause im gonna go down there soon... its my first time though... answer anyone... thanks...

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:07 PM

prepare your supporting documents, attend the charge. Alternatively, call your unit and explain your situation to them, hopefully they will be able to help you!

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 01:44 PM

Hi! Anyone knows if by the time the qualifying window closes but one has still yet to clear the FFI due to further medical investigations required, will the NS Men get charged for "IPPT Defaulter"?

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 01:57 PM

Hi! Anyone knows if by the time the qualifying window closes but one has still yet to clear the FFI due to further medical investigations required, will the NS Men get charged for "IPPT Defaulter"?


Don't think so bah. Medical issue is not your fault. Furthermore MO did not clear your FFI, how to take IPPT.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:40 PM

yea.. the unit only called for FFI review about 5mths after the window opened... and the check found abnormalities in heart ECG and was further referred to National Heart Centre for further investigations. After the session at NHC, the specialist requested for additional tests to be conducted and by the time the tests can be conducted, the IPPT window would have closed. As the FFI is not cleared yet in the whole window period and there's no way to even book and attempt the IPPT during this whole period due to the FFI...

anyone had any similar experience to the above scenario?

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:09 PM

i used to hate IPPT & would try to find ways to 'siam'- MC, not feeling well, excuses, etc
(Dare not default bcoz I(NSF) used to type charge report for IPPT defaulters & escorting them to my CO room to be charged :) so pathetic & yet funny. Mostly scolding & fined. But for 1 or 2 regular ones, kenna locked up lor).
Failed then go RT which i hated - the smelly #-tag, being treated like dogs(do this, do that), going home in public trpt in smelly t-shirt, etc.
That was 15yrs ago.
Now, i m fit & exercise regular & not to mentioned I pocketed S$600 from IPPT monetary award scheme before I ROD from reservist. In a strange way, i do miss reservist(esp the friends, the fun, etc)

Instead of defaulting IPPT, why dun u give yourself (if u r medically fit) to be fit again?

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:44 PM

hi, thanks for the sharing... its not the case of intentional wanting to default IPPT and get oneself into being charged... who wants to?!?... for this scenario, even if one wants to book and attempt the IPPT before the window closes, one can't because of the FFI clearance issue which is requiring further medical investigation.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 10:24 PM

hi, thanks for the sharing... its not the case of intentional wanting to default IPPT and get oneself into being charged... who wants to?!?... for this scenario, even if one wants to book and attempt the IPPT before the window closes, one can't because of the FFI clearance issue which is requiring further medical investigation.

Better take ur IPPT during ICT!
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:08 PM

IPPT is such a waste of time.
Coming from a pre-enlistee.
Some people have said that "IPPT and RT are good for your aging heart blahblahblah"
Well, if you noticed, we have been doing NAPFA/IPPT since Primary 4. And NSmen are still dropping dead
And MINDEF doesn't want to abolish this stupid system.
Sianz.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 12:06 AM

sigh got my SAF 264 a week ago regarding defaulting RT.. was charged once before already for defaulting RT but was let off with a warning but suay suay turned up that time with my bleached hair and was fined $50 bucks for that.. urgh.. I'm not sure whether they will give me a warning this time or a fine.. or even DB.. shaking in my boots just thinking about it.. and am a civil servant.. will the DO be harder on me..? sigh..

Anywho, I still haven changed to the new fugly uniform yet.. Can i report there wearing the old uniform instead..? would appreciate someone's reply :)

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 07:46 PM

sigh got my SAF 264 a week ago regarding defaulting RT.. was charged once before already for defaulting RT but was let off with a warning but suay suay turned up that time with my bleached hair and was fined $50 bucks for that.. urgh.. I'm not sure whether they will give me a warning this time or a fine.. or even DB.. shaking in my boots just thinking about it.. and am a civil servant.. will the DO be harder on me..? sigh..

Anywho, I still haven changed to the new fugly uniform yet.. Can i report there wearing the old uniform instead..? would appreciate someone's reply :)

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Better change in your new uniform, look smart & polish your boots & cut your hair. Better still go for a facial/manicure/pedicure if you got $$$. Wear your blink blink Rolex & spray UNFORGIVABLE on yourself(no pun intended) :) Buy crysanthemum flowers for your chief clerk lah.hehe...

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:40 AM

Hi guys, I receive saf 264 and need to appear at cmpb on next month end so do I still need to go for rt from now to next month end?

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 12:03 PM

when reporting wear yr rolex, together with a ang pow also bring along a male lawyer wearing coat. the male clerk will immediately give u VIP service.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:59 PM

i think the mindset towards ippt/rt is very important. if this is something which cannot b changed, why not turn this supposedly shitty event into something positive?

i used to be very afraid of ippt cos i am very unfit. i know once i fail i will have to attend RT which i see it as a complete waste of time.

i think most pple try to 'siam' ippt or hated it is because they know they have difficulty in passing. of cos there're some pple who really have big business out there and they dont have time to train for it. but frankly, u dont need to spend alot of time to train for ippt. u dont need one hour to run 2.4km and u have 9 months to train for it.

its all abt being discipline and good/clever time management. if one doesnt have both, i highly doubt he is able to do some big business out there in the first place.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:44 PM

hi, just to check is headdress really neccessary? cause i lost mine and i need to report there tmr morning

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 03:50 AM

Also, just got my saf 245, no smart 4, can I go in work attire? Need to report for work after that.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:51 AM

Also, just got my saf 245, no smart 4, can I go in work attire? Need to report for work after that.

guess must be in smart 4 ba... because my bro purposely went to buy a new one...

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 03:34 PM

Haiz, so troublesome. Thanks for the response. Guess, I'll have to borrow an old no 4 pants (not willing to spend the $ just for this...) - hope the old camo no4 is still fine. I found my old top last night, but the pants are 2 sizes too small...

Plus, the funny thing is I dun think I can even take IPPT, I'm permanently downgraded excused upper body due to an old injury sustained during service...

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:30 PM

Hey im a defaulter for 4 times.never attend rt & ippt.and im being called for SAF 264.my last charged was 300+.now i have to go down to mobray road.just afraid will go DB



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